The Third Army had been fighting fiercely since early September to push the tenacious Germans out of the city, suffering casualties that approached 50%. Finally on November 19 the American forces were able to encircle the city and begin a systematic elimination of the enemy occupiers

On the evening of November 20, 1944 Sergeant Leonard O’Reilly, a former elevator operator from Brooklyn, entered a brewery near the city that had just been abandoned by SS troopers after a fierce defense. O’Reilly’s assignment was to help clear the building of any remaining enemy soldiers. Prowling slowly through the darkness, O’Reilly glimpsed a figure cringing in a dusty corner. Approaching warily, O’Reilly discovered a well-dressed German officer who immediately declared that his high rank prevented him from surrendering to a mere Sergeant. The Sergeant shoved his pistol into his captive’s ample belly and cocked it. This was enough to motivate his prisoner to meekly join the other enemy captives.

The prisoner was Major General Anton Dunckern the SS commander of the region. Dunckern had joined the SS in 1933 and had steadily gained promotion over the intervening years. He was a major catch of such importance that General Patton decided to interrogate him personally.

"He is a liar!"

Although Patton could speak German fluently, he opted to interrogate the SS officer through an interpreter because, as he noted, he would not give his prisoner the honor of talking to him directly:

"Patton	You can tell this man that naturally in my position I can­not demean myself to question him, but I can say this, that I have captured a great many German generals, and this is the first one who has been wholly untrue to everything; because he has not only been a Nazi but he is untrue to the Nazis by surrendering. If he wants to say anything he can, and I will say that unless he talks pretty well, I will turn him over to the French. They know how to make people talk.
Dunckern	. . . I received orders to go in the Metz sector and defend a certain sector there, and the reason I did not perish was that I could not reach my weapons and fight back.
Patton	. . . He is a liar!
Dunkern	There was no possibility to continue fighting. The door was opened, and they put a gun on me.
Patton	If he wanted to be a good Nazi, he could have died then and there. It would have been a pleasanter death than what he will get now.
Dunkern	. . . It was useless to do anything about it under the circumstances. (He asked permission to ask a question; it was granted.) I was fighting against American troops and captured by them, and therefore am to be considered a prisoner of war of the American forces.
Patton	He will be a prisoner of war of the French forces soon. They have a lot they want to ask him.
Dunkern	I consider myself a prisoner of war of the American forces, and I have not been captured by the French forces.
Patton	When I am dealing with vipers, I do not have to be bothered by any foolish ideas any more than he has been.
Dunkern	I consider myself a prisoner of war since I fought as a soldier and should be treated as a soldier.
Patton	You also acted as a policeman - a low type of police.
Dunkern	I acted as an officer of the police in an honorable and practical manner, and I have nothing to be ashamed of.
Patton	This is a matter of opinion - no one who is a Nazi police­ man could act in an honorable manner.
Dunkern	I can only say that during every day of my life I have been honest, rightful, respectful, and humanitarian.
Patton	If this is the case, do you have anything you want to say by way of giving me information or by talking about the German people that will change my opinion?
Dunkern	No one will be able to stand up against me to testify that I did anything against the rules of humanity or human treatment.
Patton	I understand German very well, but I will not demean myself by speaking such a language. I think before I turn the Gen­eral over to the French, I will send him to the Army Group who may question him or have some special investigators question him, and they can do things I can't do.
Dunkern	I am not worried about having myself investigated. Of course, there may be some mistakes I have made, which is only human, but I am not worried about inhuman acts charged against me.
Patton	. . . I have great respect for the German soldiers; they are gallant men, but not for Nazis. Have the guards take him outside and have his picture taken and then we'll see what we will do with him. Also tell him that those bayonets on the guards' guns are very sharp."

References:
   This eyewitness account appears in: Blumenson, Martin., The Patton Papers (1974); Allen, Robert Sharon, Lucky Forward, the History of Patton’s Third Army (1947); Hanson, Victor Davis, The Soul of Battle (1999).

How To Cite This Article:
"General George Patton Interrogates a SS General, 1944," EyeWitness to History, www.eyewitnesstohistory.com (2008).